Motorola Keypad Programable Radio?

JJG · Post by **JJG** » Wed Apr 21, 2004 1:57 am

Hiya.

Just wondering if Motorola makes a VHF radio that can be programmed through the radio's keypad?

Thanks,

K8TEK · Post by **K8TEK** » Wed Apr 21, 2004 3:27 am

Here are Motorola's only field programmable radios...

AP73
GP68
GP2000
HT1550XLS (with programming battery)
JT1000

Heterodyne · Post by **Heterodyne** » Wed Apr 21, 2004 6:34 am

You forgot the AP50/CP50...

Rare, but you see the odd one on eBay now and then.

mike m · Post by **mike m** » Wed Apr 21, 2004 7:08 am

You forgot the XTS5000 govt model with FPP

JJG · Post by **JJG** » Wed Apr 21, 2004 7:59 am

So what do you guys think about the GP68 ? Good rugged radio?

KG6EAQ · Post by **KG6EAQ** » Wed Apr 21, 2004 8:01 am

JJG wrote:So what do you guys think about the GP68 ? Good rugged radio?

Not to sound like an ass but GP68 and rugged should never be used in the same sentence. If you want a rugged FPP radio get a JT1000.

Woody_99 · Post by **Woody_99** » Wed Apr 21, 2004 8:36 am

Hey, I've been thinking of a JT myself.... can't seem to find anything. Ebay was even void.
What are VHF going for these days??

hooknladder · Post by **hooknladder** » Wed Apr 21, 2004 10:43 am

I don't think you'll find any JT1000's on ebay anymore because I think they block the sale of non type accepted radios like the JT1000, GP2000, GP68 etc. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Victor Xray · Post by **Victor Xray** » Wed Apr 21, 2004 11:16 am

You're wrong. The JT1000 is type-accepted for US operation. Once upon a time, it was used extensively by various US Government departments --- hence the "Government" mode that allows direct keypad entry without the use of the side key.

Jim2121 · Post by **Jim2121** » Wed Apr 21, 2004 11:18 am

A VHF JT1000 went for $405 I didn't read the detials...But they can easily go for $600. & up... on ebay.. There just far n few...(in VHF) Sales for JT's are not blocked!

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RKG · Post by **RKG** » Wed Apr 21, 2004 12:45 pm

Not to confuse things, but a condition of the JT1000 type acceptance is that it not be usable as a radio and front panel programmable at the same time. See 47 C.F.R. sec. 90.203(g).

Woody_99 · Post by **Woody_99** » Wed Apr 21, 2004 1:47 pm

Oops.... now see what we did....

Thanks for the info, and to add my pesos...

The JT requires a "programming key" that most of us understand, (what it is, etc.) and I think the loophole is the word "easily" or something to that effect.... the user has to take specific and deliberate steps to make the radio program via keypad. i.e. Open the Relm, flip the switch or open the Vertex, cut the wire/trace/etc, and yes, seek out a programming key for the JT in order to make it keypad program, and purposefully attach it.
(or just hakkaplug!)

Unfortunately, the law (like anything else), is as oh so finicky as the reader that interprets it!

mancow · Post by **mancow** » Wed Apr 21, 2004 7:47 pm

OK, here we go again..........

I have a RACAL25 sitting here in front of me. All I have to do is push one button and I'm able to fully program the radio.
The radio has FCC and Canadian type acceptance stickers on the back. You can buy them right off the website.

Why is this such an issue?

mancow

Jonathan KC8RYW · Post by **Jonathan KC8RYW** » Wed Apr 21, 2004 8:00 pm

I'm surprised a certain special someone hasn't mentioned the infamous front-panel programmable Spectra.

mancow · Post by **mancow** » Wed Apr 21, 2004 8:03 pm

Oh no, not again

mancow

Josh · Post by **Josh** » Wed Apr 21, 2004 8:08 pm

I think someone is just trying to rack-up posts!

RKG · Post by **RKG** » Thu Apr 22, 2004 10:20 am

I'm not familiar with that RACAL, but if you look up the type accesptance order, you may find restrictions (such as limited to aircraft, limited to federal, limited to firefighting under the wildfires program, or the like).

RocketNJ · Post by **RocketNJ** » Thu Apr 22, 2004 3:08 pm

I like my XTS5000 with FPP.

George

chartofmaryland · Post by **chartofmaryland** » Thu Apr 22, 2004 8:08 pm

Anyone bought a THALES brand, I think ex RACAL, radio, they go for somethin like 1300.00 from direct. Locally made here, might get one, when the get accepted into the all mighty FCC. Wonder what moto it will interface with, maybe the replacement for the XTS and an all bander.

heheheheh

CHART out

mancow · Post by **mancow** » Thu Apr 22, 2004 11:46 pm

The one I'm referring to is the Thales25 (formerly RACAL25).

It has an FCC ID number on the back.

The features are FPP programming, Project25 digital, DES, DES-OFB, OTAR, Multikey, 256 channels, display editing from keypad, soft buttons, zone capable, submersible, ruggedized, etc....about everything except MDC and trunking.

They retail for $2500

mancow

farscott · Post by **farscott** » Fri Apr 23, 2004 3:26 am

From a technical view, the Thales25 is one heck of a radio. The Thales25 looks to be my next VHF portable if I can find someone to service it. I like the pricing transparency of Thales, but the real value (to me) in Motorola is the service/support network. The service and support, to me as an individual, is an unknown with Thales wheras the local Motorola dealer/service shop is five miles away.

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