Res168cue wrote:I will get you the OEM spec on the 3M product and I didn't say it was for mounting radios, I said it was for the use of the product in and around autos which last time I checked this was....
I guess the real issue here somehow you have really convinced yourself that if I were to get into an accident with my vehicle (and roll it down a hill none the less) that nothing else would come into contact with my face except the two MCS2000 control heads that I used this 3M tape/adhesive to attach the brackets to the vehicle with. The glass in the vehicle won't break... the metal won't bend or crush.... other items inside the vehicle will stay firmly in place but god damn it if those control heads are the end of me. Also I don't know what your fixation is on consoles? Maybe you work for Havis, maybe Jotto and are on the take from one for both of them and have to push their products like there is no other way to mount a radio EXCEPT in a console. Just in case you do think that you are sadly mistaken it isn't even the "correct" way.... its a personal preference there are many different ways to mount a radio.
As for getting console and "if I were a good installer" making it all fancy with leather and CF yes it could be done and no I wouldn't say its too expensive but clearly I didn't want to use a console and that's the bottom line. The fact that I didn't though plus coupled with the fact that I didn't do aftermarket work to the console consisting of leather and CF that makes my work substandard.
The only mistake I made was to post my work here after seeing people get bashed time after time, thinking that maybe it would just give people some ideas or just show them that thing can be done differently. Yes wire loom, wire loom the only way to do things much like a console I'm afraid. HAHAHA, yea you got me if the wires fray I will have heated rear seats.
No I don't need a run down of your vehicles that's not the point. However if you have just portables in your car and no mobiles then who are you to slam me? Maybe you just don't like mobiles or don't have any. Maybe you won't do an install without a console and haven't gotten around to getting one yet. Maybe you can't do an install I don't know, and to be honest really don't care. But correct me if I'm wrong but when you get into an accident and roll one of your many cars down a hill those portables are going to become projectiles and I'm 99% sure one of them is going to hit you in the head. Wait that's right you probably haven then bolted down or in a console of some type.
I didn't post with the intention of saying look at me. I posted because the title of this forum is vehicle installs and that's what this was. There is really nothing HACK about my install and I'm sure if you saw it in person you would agree. This is all just a side hobby for me and I'm sure you are a professional vehicle installer... No wait your a Occupation: Contract Cleaner So looks like I won't be working for you and you won't be giving me the boot. I never claimed my work to be industry standard so I don't know where you get that from. Let's see some of your work I'll be sure to comment on it... By the way if you do post work all work must be in a Havis or Jotto console and Bolted down in every way known to modern man.
Next time you can keep your .02 cents....
Damn, I'm surprised you didn't type that all in caps.... maybe your next post.
The tape is used for auto's, mouldings, trim, etc.
I never said you would roll down a hill, that was someone else, not me.
I don't work for a manufacturer, rep for one, or have anything to do with one. I do know that Havis and Jotto are the only 2 that manufacture a drop in console (that attach with screws/bolts, not tape) for that and many other vehicles like it.
Because your mounting preference is the way that you like it, does not make it the best way, or to manufactures spec and/or recomendation.
YOU were the one who stated that the reason that YOU did not want a console was because your upscale vehicle had carbon fiber on the dash and it would not match, so, make it nice and make it match, you will have one of a kind, something for others to look at and say WOW, instead of looking at it now and saying WOW, what a POS. I say substandard because of many things, taped on radio's, wiring that is a mess and not properly protected, and these are the things we can see, what about the rest that we cannot see, under the console/dash/hood?
Your only mistake was posting and not expecting anybody to tell you the truth, the install is a good start, but certainly has issues. I guess I am no one to slam anyone, and I didn't, I pointed out what I saw to be problems, you got an attitude about it. As far as loose portables, I am guilty, but frankly, I own enough legit XTS5K's to have paid for a Denali, you have what, 2K worth of radios in a 50K truck, and didn't take the time to do an install deserving of such a vehicle.
I unfortunatly cannot get a console in my car(s), as of yet I have not found a way or a manufacturer to make one for a DTS or the new STS, so I am stuck with portables, I can use a Setcom on either of my Harley's. And nope, I don't have the need for a mobile.
There is nothing HACK about your install, except........ most all of it. But it is your side hobby, and yes, I am a professional installer. As far as my previous occupation, it was with the gov't, yes, I doubt that you could ever do the job I did, maybe you ought to do a google search on it.
I'll keep my opinion's to myself next time (yeah right), feel free to come out and look over some of my installs, be glad to show you around to some of the local sights as well. Bring your truck so I can get a first hand looksee at it.
Next time don't post on a public forum and ask people to only comment if they have anything good to say.
SG