HT1000 AA Clamshell

plonerga · Post by **plonerga** » Thu Mar 04, 2004 5:18 pm

Does anyone know of a source for HT1000 AA Clamshell Battery Packs? Thanks-

motor59 · Post by **motor59** » Fri Mar 05, 2004 6:57 am

They don't exist.

Splat · Post by **Splat** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 6:58 am

Actually, they now do. http://www.batteryzone.com now has a clamshell for the Jedi series. Their part# is CAM7144 and their asking price is $40. Not bad, but it looks pretty damn bulky.

fire_master_21 · Post by **fire_master_21** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 9:22 am

I got one already. It works pretty good, not something I would want to carry around very long. I got it to keep in my gear bag for lengthly m/aid kinda stuff.

Splat · Post by **Splat** » Fri Jan 06, 2006 6:40 pm

The only guys I know who use them are my forestry buddies. IIRC no one made one for the Jedi series so everyone was using BK radios because you could get clamshells for them. I'd take a MT2000 over a BK, but nowadays I'd take a Kenwood TK-2180 over a Motorola.

Post by **Grog** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 8:42 pm

This guy has an ad on the radio referance forums. Looks sorta clunky to me

http://radioreference.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26760

1 Adam 12 · Post by **1 Adam 12** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 4:34 am

Well there is a difference in the model for any front display radio and non-display radios such as the HT1000 or MTX. A local agency requested one to try for their HT1000s and then tried to pop it on the MTS2000 they have and ended up getting another model that fits it. I just ordered and XTS one to play with.
As mentioned they add length and width to radio and may not fit in some standard cases if you don't use the belt clip option. As an emergency option, bulky or not, its a great tool.

wa2zdy · Post by **wa2zdy** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 8:43 am

Ok I'm missing soemthing here but why a different one for the HT1000 vs the MT2000 (A7)? How does the front display matter?

And I like how he says 5Ah for the AA pack. Never saw AA batteries rated at 5Ah. . .

RESCUE161 · Post by **RESCUE161** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 8:44 am

I just wish I could find one for a KVL (3011).

mastr · Post by **mastr** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 9:13 am

2 strings of 6 cells each would be 5AH if 2500mah cells were used. 2500mah AA cells are available at nearly any Wal-mart.

wa2zdy wrote:Ok I'm missing soemthing here but why a different one for the HT1000 vs the MT2000 (A7)? How does the front display matter?

And I like how he says 5Ah for the AA pack. Never saw AA batteries rated at 5Ah. . .

Johnny Galaga · Post by **Johnny Galaga** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 11:31 am

mastr wrote:2 strings of 6 cells each would be 5AH if 2500mah cells were used. 2500mah AA cells are available at nearly any Wal-mart.

So those 2 strings are in parallel? With 12 AA batteries, I was kinda worried about the radio getting hit with 15 volts.

1 Adam 12 · Post by **1 Adam 12** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 12:04 pm

Possibly due to a regular case being shaped different from the speaker portion down, versus a full display case. Due to the display and keys etc its a differrent shaped case then a top or non display case.
But it brings up another intersting point.. if its top display then you probably need and HT1000 case ?? I'll go by the department and see if I can borrow em for a day or two.

wa2zdy · Post by **wa2zdy** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 8:38 pm

mastr wrote:2 strings of 6 cells each would be 5AH if 2500mah cells were used. 2500mah AA cells are available at nearly any Wal-mart.

You are in fact correct. For some reason I was not thinking 7.5v. Duh.

Now I'll have to go get my HT1000 and MT2000 and compare them. I'd never noticed a difference in the exact shape of the cases. Hmmm . . .

MWalkerZone · Post by **MWalkerZone** » Tue May 16, 2006 8:38 am

2 strings of 6 cells each would be 5AH if 2500mah cells were used. 2500mah AA cells are available at nearly any Wal-mart.

So those 2 strings are in parallel? With 12 AA batteries, I was kinda worried about the radio getting hit with 15 volts.

They are indeed using 2 parallel strings of 6 cells. Using "Duracell Procell" or "Energizer Industrial" (2200-2600 mAh), we figured 5000mAh would be a good average. The capacity would be very close to this if not equal using regular old "Copper Tops". Also having the cells in 2 strings means it's nowhere near 15v.

Now I'll have to go get my HT1000 and MT2000 and compare them. I'd never noticed a difference in the exact shape of the cases. Hmmm . . .

The case is slightly different. The MT2000, MTS2000, JT1000 etc. etc. case has a teeny tiny bit more room to accomadate the keypad.

RadioSouth · Post by **RadioSouth** » Tue May 16, 2006 11:04 am

wa2zdy wrote:
mastr wrote:2 strings of 6 cells each would be 5AH if 2500mah cells were used. 2500mah AA cells are available at nearly any Wal-mart.

You are in fact correct. For some reason I was not thinking 7.5v. Duh.

Now I'll have to go get my HT1000 and MT2000 and compare them. I'd never noticed a difference in the exact shape of the cases. Hmmm . . .

HT1000 and MT2000 A-4 are identical dimensions, the A-7, B-7 case is slightly thicker in the lower 1/2 to fit the display, keypad electronics. The gawky design of this clamshell just doesn't hook on the back of the radio it also wraps around the bottom and goes up the front cover a bit
hence the need for 2 different Jedi models.

kd6rfs · Post by **kd6rfs** » Tue May 16, 2006 5:08 pm

wait a minute....I just checked BatteryZones site, and they have (2) models, one alkaline and one lithium....I know the difference in lithium and alkaline, but I mean whats the difference as far as, are these "one time use only" packs? or are they able to be opened and the AA's changed out with fresh ones? I didnt get it in the description of the product? also, if you look at the bottom edge in the pic closely, you can see where its rounded to fit around the display models, right below the keypad its also rounded? thanks...David KD6RFS

MWalkerZone · Post by **MWalkerZone** » Wed May 17, 2006 6:55 am

kd6rfs wrote:wait a minute....I just checked BatteryZones site, and they have (2) models, one alkaline and one lithium....I know the difference in lithium and alkaline, but I mean whats the difference as far as, are these "one time use only" packs? or are they able to be opened and the AA's changed out with fresh ones? I didnt get it in the description of the product? also, if you look at the bottom edge in the pic closely, you can see where its rounded to fit around the display models, right below the keypad its also rounded? thanks...David KD6RFS

Yes...they are able to be opened and filled with new AA's. As far as the difference between the alkaline and lithium version, I believe that it should read "Alkaline OR Lithium". After looking at the pics on the site it seems that the one labeled "Lithium" is actually the keypad version. I will inform our site administrator of this. Thanks for pointing it out.

Below, Is a better description of the product. I borrowed a HT1000 from the fire station across the road from me and snapped off a few pics. Hope this helps.

Potential Uses:

*Backup battery.
*Emergency situations when power for recharging is unavailable.
*Emergency cache for incident command vehicles as well as natural disaster and homeland security preparedness.
*Search and rescue in remote locations.
*Campaign firefighting (forest fires).
*Long term storage (7 years with new batteries).
*More cost effective than rechargeable batteries for radios that are infrequently used.

Specs:

*Operates on (12) alkaline or lithium AA batteries (Specify model).
*5Ah w/ alkaline cells. 6Ah w/ lithium cells.
*7.75”tall w/o radio. 8.5”tall w/ radio. (HT1000)
*Available for the following radios: HT1000, MT2000, MTS2000, JT1000, HT6000, MTX8000, GP900, XTS3000/3500/5000 (Specify Model).

Picture:
This is the HT1000/MTS2000 model. XTS3000/5000 model not shown, but it's the same concept.

HT1000 AA Clamshell

HT1000 AA Clamshell

Clamshell

Case size difference