High power (100) Watt IMBE Whats available?

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High power (100) Watt IMBE Whats available?

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All the Astro-guru's out there:

If a guy were looking for a high power mobile radio, remote mount, 100 watt VHF radio, capable of 7.5kHz center channels, and flashed with at least IMBE Digital...what does Motorola have available, in current production and what kind of retail range?

While it's sacrelige....how about the competition?

Anybody, Bueller??
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XTL2500 - I believe the last price I saw was about $2500 for high-power/remote W5 (or O5?) config, analog only
XTL5000 - Considerably more

I would look strongly at the Kenwood TK-5710. If memory serves, should run you about $2K-$2500 in such a configuration, ready to do IMBE.
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The XTL5k cost us $4k when they came out for VHF-45watts - IMBE/Display ID and DVP-XL W5. So, new...it will cost some bucks. eBay high power IMBE are going around 600-1k.
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Looking back at the fourm list...I have this break down for you:

XTL5000
$1597.60 M20KTS9PW1AN VHF MOBILE 50-110 WATT 136-174 MHZ
$ 437.75 G806 ENH: SOFTWARE ASTRO DIGITAL CAI OPERATION
$ 680.00 G48 ENH: CONVENTIONAL OPERATION
$ 367.20 G79 ADD: W5 CONTROL HEAD
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Well, here is why I was asking, and to go along with the spirit of our wonderful governmental entities- I'm getting ready to go looking into an "Interoperable communications" grant to replace wideband radios with narrowband ones

THEY SAY it HAS TO HAVE:
-at least 48 channel
-8 Character display
-Capable of 7.5kHz spacing
-Oh, and it HAS to be "Project25, Common Air Interface"
By the way, is that the same as an IMBE flash?

just to be on the eligible equipment list

AND we only have $2k per unit to replace (no we can't use elsewhere) REPLACE wideband radios.

This is for VHF, Wanna stay with Moto, but it just doesn't look possible. Thanks for the info
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Kenwood TK-5710HBK Full p25 compliance.

Accepted by US Federal agencies
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macom 7100m will also do what you need.

Second vote for the kenwood.
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Post by mancow »

Or

Datron Guardian series

They make a remote mount 110 watt unit. It has 256 channels, with IMBE, analog DES built in as standard, DES or AES as an option for P25, and simple as hell to program.

I believe they run around $2500-3000 for the hi power unit. The 50 watt is about $2000.


I have a hand held on loan for testing and it's the poop. It's a racal 25 in an XTS body. It even uses the same batteries. The Hi power mobile is a handheld in a different body with just the coax running to a large amplifier in the trunk.
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I've seen the datron units - basically repackaged Racal or Motorola boards.

Their mobile concept just seems silly. A portable hooked up to an amp?

Might as well just sell a converta-com at that point instead.
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Post by mancow »

I thought it was a pretty decent idea myself. Why have all the parts in the back? You aren't losing that much in cable loss on Vhf so what's the disadvantage?

Atleast the main guts are all up front where you can work on them.
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Post by BPD109 »

Well, we heard the buzz today that Momma is lowering prices enough that we will be able to consider them now, at least! Still now high power offering from Moto tho for the mobiles, BUT, at least we have somewhere to start!

Thanks for all the input. It's been much appreciated.
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Just seems like using a portable to do a mobile's job. The concept is neat from a manufacturing and parts viewpoint though.
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What grant are you applying for? Just curious.

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aaknitt wrote:What grant are you applying for? Just curious.

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FY 05 Interoperable Communications Grant, and we apply through the State Emergency Management Agency (Missouri)

Wrote the grant to replace our mobiles with XTL2500s (as they are 100 watt) and XTS2500 Model 1.5

Now it's up to the bean counters.
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