Min V Reset

SafetyLighting · Post by **SafetyLighting** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 4:10 pm

Hi all, I'd like to have my Minitor V reset automatically about 10 seconds after it is alerted. I tried to use the Reset after N, but that left the squelch open and was kind of annoying because of static. So I went back to the RevertSQ which puts it into Monitor mode. Is there a way to have it revert to monitor when toned, but then reset after 10 seconds? Thanks.

tvsjr · Post by **tvsjr** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 4:14 pm

We used Delayed N (n=6.24). However, you're going to get the static when the repeater drops (since it's not supposed to in real QC2 paging).

SafetyLighting · Post by **SafetyLighting** » Thu Sep 14, 2006 10:41 am

right, the static is what annoys me, so I guess I'm stuck with the monitor and reset manually

derekjmu · Post by **derekjmu** » Sun Sep 24, 2006 11:01 am

i'm glad i'm not the only one that is annoyed by the post-alert static in the M2-5 pagers. i liked the vibe feature so much in my UHF M4 i got a vibe motor & installed it in my like new UHF M2 non-SV and use that pager almost exclusively.

123 · Post by **123** » Sun Oct 29, 2006 7:00 pm

My problem is that I have mine to reset at 67.0 seconds, no biggy to me cause most of the time I push my reset button on the pager & it goes back on silent.

BUT

when the pager is in the charger amp I can not get it to reset, I push the chargers reset button & the pagers reset button & NOTHING happens, it stays in squelch mode for the full 67.0 seconds which sucks. The only way I can get it to stop is to change modes or turn it off.

Anyone else having the same problem?

123 · Post by **123** » Sun Oct 29, 2006 7:20 pm

I tryed "Revert" the reset button works on the pager but not the amp. I can live with that , but if a carrier is dropped because the dispatcher unkeyes for for whatever reason, the pager stops SV recording. So that function can not work for me.

jban · Post by **jban** » Mon Nov 06, 2006 8:36 pm

We had a similiar problem. /\/\ told me to set the revert to just under a second (it will auto set to just less than 1 second). This solved our SV issues and the reset in the amp charger. You still get the SQ tail for just a moment but it stops.

123 · Post by **123** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 6:49 am

"Revert" does not have a timer, are you talking about "Revert N" maybe?

I also need the correct amount of time needed. 0.96 seconds?

jban · Post by **jban** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 8:36 am

Sorry about that, Yes, Revert N. I believe the .96 is correct. I don't have it in front of me. I entered a value of 1.00 and it auto corrected. This has eliminated the issues we were having. Like I said it leaves you with just a moment of squelch, but that was livable with us.

This is what factory advised.

Asst17-1 · Post by **Asst17-1** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 11:26 am

Ok, But if you set the delay to .96 and after the tones drop the dispatcher doesn't key up right away this will cause the SV not to record?

Currently I have all of our pagers set to RevertN for 29.7 seconds. Yes we get the static for that amount of time but it seemed if I set it any lower and the dispatcher was slow it would miss recording.

jban · Post by **jban** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 2:50 pm

This 1 second delay is there to account for the dispatcher not keying up immediately. You may want to talk to your dispatch supervisor and explain about the SV and how the dispatch delay affects it. We are a small agency with one dispatcher on duty. After explaining how the system works they have been real diligent about keying up right after the tone drops.

123 · Post by **123** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 7:39 pm

My problem is on Structure Fire tone squences the Dispatcher does the following:

Gives out a tone for about 3-5 seconds{This is a general tone not meant to set any pagers off}, then drops carrier. Dispatcher then proceeds to tone out Stations, the tone process may take between 25-50 seconds depending on how many units are in the response. Then the dispatcher drops carrier again,Gives out the same tone as sent in the beginning for a length of 3-5 seconds, After that the dispatcher does NOT drop carrier & proceeds to voice dispatch the call.

Any idea how I can SV this Scenario?

jban · Post by **jban** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 9:00 pm

Wow. We would be on scene before your dispatcher ever gave out the address. I would suggest streamlining the dispatch process. Why the pre & post tones. That seems to be overkill.

We get paged with stacked tones 4-5 deep on a regular basis and our M5's handle it fine with the setup I described. I still think it is a dispatcher education issue.

jban · Post by **jban** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 9:15 pm

Re read your post. Sounds like the problem resides in the dropped carrier between the end of tone drop and the post courtesy tone. You are just going to have to adjust the Revert N time to account for that gap in which you get white noise or try to get dispatch to modify the tone process and omit the post tone.

That is still a long tone out process.

My real job can tap out a box (3-6 stations) in about 15 seconds. They did go to a fast tone format however.

Sorry I can't be of more help.

123 · Post by **123** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 9:43 pm

The courtesy tone is so units on the 800MHz trunked group do not try to call the dispatcher while they are toning on VHF

A usual structure response is:
3 Engines
1 Tanker {if no plugs in the area}
1 Ladder {Can be replaced by Squad or Rescue Co.}
1 Batt. Chief
1 Division Chief
1 EMS ALS

They all come from seperate stations, so that is at least 7 station tones plus 2 courtesy tones which is why the tone process is so long. They use QC-II paging, but I agree the tones are too long.