LAPD Codeplug?

RTFireguy · Post by **RTFireguy** » Thu Feb 15, 2007 4:57 pm

Anyone have an updated LAPD codeplug. to match what they are running now?

Post by **xmo** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 2:45 pm

MR. PIPERTECH said that wold never happen.

RTFireguy · Post by **RTFireguy** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 6:14 pm

xmo wrote:MR. PIPERTECH said that wold never happen.

heh, I don't mean a codeplug out of the radio just something close to it along the lines of an already set up chann line up with freqs. I'd rather not spend 1-2 hrs putting everything in and changing all the NAC settings

Post by **escomm** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 10:11 pm

oh so someone else can spend their time building it

haha

RTFireguy · Post by **RTFireguy** » Sat Feb 17, 2007 10:49 am

escomm wrote:oh so someone else can spend their time building it

haha

hahahaha

I figured someone might have done it already. geeez

SYNTORX71MAN · Post by **SYNTORX71MAN** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 8:54 am

I smell some Federal Jail Time around the Corner

..LMMFAO

josegutierrez88 · Post by **josegutierrez88** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 10:00 am

aaaaaaaaaaa

mr.syntrx · Post by **mr.syntrx** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 10:17 am

RTFireguy wrote:
xmo wrote:MR. PIPERTECH said that wold never happen.

heh, I don't mean a codeplug out of the radio just something close to it along the lines of an already set up chann line up with freqs. I'd rather not spend 1-2 hrs putting everything in and changing all the NAC settings

You don't need the NAC unless you're going to transmit.

"Digital CSQ."

SYNTORX71MAN · Post by **SYNTORX71MAN** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 10:48 am

Like some of the other BB and forums say..BUY A SCANNER..its safer for everyone that way

RESCUE161 · Post by **RESCUE161** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 3:39 pm

Some agencies use conventional systems that are digital like LAPD and they use a different NAC as a sort of "PL" so they can use the same frequency, but have different users.

So the whole, "You don't need a NAC unless you're going to transmit" thing is not true. Scanners do not selectively lockout unwanted NACs like they can PLs and DPLs, so you'd need a real radio to do that.

He can set that radio up to not transmit at all on LAPDs frequencies as they are not trunked, so the whole, "Buy a scanner" is old hat too.

SYNTORX71MAN · Post by **SYNTORX71MAN** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 6:17 pm

I smell a wanna be....

RESCUE161 · Post by **RESCUE161** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 6:32 pm

SYNTORX71MAN wrote:I smell a wanna be....

I smell someone trying to stir up trouble...

I'm just pointing out that everyone jumps on the band-wagon and screams GET A SCANNER even though the person may not need a scanner.

The whole, "get a scanner" thing came about because people were trying to program radios on trunked radio systems and were jacking the systems up, i.e., radios were getting inhibited, legit radios were missing calls, illegal access attempts were being made, etc.

With a conventional system, you don't have those problems as you can program the radio to NEVER transmit - something that you can't truly do with a trunked radio, especially with the newer trunked protocols.

I think what everyone is missing is the fact that this guy is not programming anything on a trunked system. He is trying to monitor a CONVENTIONAL system.

Oh and not sure who you were referring to when you posted the "wanna be" comment, but it sure ain't me.

SYNTORX71MAN · Post by **SYNTORX71MAN** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 6:57 pm

No I wasn't directing the wanna be comment towards you...It just seems these days people get into more trouble with programming radios to monitor and not transmit so they say.
Just for the money you spend on a Astro Saber...I am guessing thats what he or she has..He or She gotta be politically correct now..Could spend the money on a high end uniden or radio shack(GRE) and be a lot easier to program in the end...and possibly save him or her some heartache in the end. To me its like buying a race car and sitting in your driveway playing with the throttle and never race it..But I suppose if it really floats your boat...I just hope this person has a legitmate use hobby and not ulterior motives in mind....So I apologize if I ruffled any feathers..

.I just want to see people stay on the up and up side of the Law/Po Po...

RESCUE161 · Post by **RESCUE161** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 7:15 pm

I apologize too for coming off like I did, but you have to realize that even high-end scanners don't have a feature that can lockout or omit NACs from digital frequencies like Motorola radios can. I can either buy a $500.00 scanner, or a $500.00 Astro Saber. If my main interest is listening to a conventional digital system that unitlizes NACs as their PL/DPL, then that that $500.00 scanner is worthless as they do not have the ability to decode or lockout NACs. This leaves me listening in digital CSQ where I'll hear everything coming over that frequency. There may be neighboring agencies using the same frequency in which I don't want to hear, but with a scanner, I'm forced to hear everything coming over the speaker. With a Motorola radio, I can program my radio to only listen to a certain NAC, there by omitting interference from the neighboring agency.

Post by **escomm** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 8:03 pm

Just to clarify for this thread and others who may be interested, LAPD does not use any trunking, runs all channels in the clear except a couple (metro ops, narco, anti-terrorism etc) and has a veritable f-ton of channels. 2 channels per division, times 19 divisions, plus 15 or so tac channels, 8 traffic channels, 5 or 6 mutual aid channels, and 12 other randoms as well (k9, air ops, juvi).

It's alot of work to build the plug, as noted by OP

Will · Post by **Will** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 11:26 pm

As ESComm mentions
"It's alot of work to build the plug, as noted by OP".

This IS the price the radio user has to pay to have the same 'channel layout' as LAPD's Rovers.

mr.syntrx · Post by **mr.syntrx** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 1:17 am

RESCUE161 wrote:Some agencies use conventional systems that are digital like LAPD and they use a different NAC as a sort of "PL" so they can use the same frequency, but have different users.

So the whole, "You don't need a NAC unless you're going to transmit" thing is not true. Scanners do not selectively lockout unwanted NACs like they can PLs and DPLs, so you'd need a real radio to do that.

He can set that radio up to not transmit at all on LAPDs frequencies as they are not trunked, so the whole, "Buy a scanner" is old hat too.

Fair enough. Most agencies I know of use talkgroups for stuff like that (that being what they're there for), but I get what you're saying.

RTFireguy · Post by **RTFireguy** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 8:09 pm

Ok since some of you are still stuck on the "Buy a scanner" kick.

I can go on and on about how a radio is better on RX then a scanner BLAH BLAH

but I won't so get over it. I have what I have, and that's not going to change because a few people on a message board told me to.

Now on to the wanna be comments. Think about this. Everything I need is posted on the web to properly program a radio with the freqs and how to make a radio Xmit. So If really wanted to I wouldn't need to come here.

I came here to see if anyone had already set up a RX only CP to match (not a true CP) what LAPD had as a line up. Well I guess that was a mistake.

Post by **alex** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 9:16 pm

Let me put it to you this way:

This board isn't the place to come for frequencies, dedicated system information, talkgroups, what have you. It has long been mentioned that if you send someone a codeplug, remove all the programming and stuff as it may reveal more information about your system that you may not want public or shared.

In other words -- use your head.

You've noticed in this thread that people's attitude is pretty much "get a scanner." This really has been the typical response because there are a lot of people who have come across the means to purchase, program, and gain access to system resources they otherwise wouldn't have access to. They may do this knowingly or unknowingly.

Throughout the past couple of years, it has been the interest of this community to point people in that direction if they are asking general questions. If you ask specifics or point out what specifically you are trying to do, people will be more helpful and be able to guide and help you understand.

In the end - I'm not saying this is your intention, or something that you would do. Don't take it that way. I'm simply trying to explain the thought process behind it.

In the end, if you want frequency information etc, there's enough other resources on the internet with far more updated information than you'll find here.

So in short, I'm going to lock this topic - since I would expect/believe that it wouldn't be something a general member would just share - even if they had it.

-Alex

[ and as a note: I was very amused by the pipertech reference! Nice.]