NiCd vs NiMH

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HailStorm
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NiCd vs NiMH

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Which has a longer runtime (if capacity is equal)? Which is the one that's less affected by partial discharge/recharge? What's a fair price to pay for an high mAh HT1000 battery (of either type)?

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SD70MAC
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BATTERY

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I like the 2700mah NiMH for my JT1000 /MT2000. I get all my batteries from KENDOO.COM $39.00 last time i got one. I have had very good service from them they don't get a memory problem. You need a slow and fast charger for NiMH batteries some times you can run them to low and the fast charger will not charge them.


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Post by RKG »

1. By definition, equal.
2. In real life, it would be hard to tell, given modern, well-made NiCads.
3. About $70 for M batteries.
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Post by HailStorm »

2. In real life, it would be hard to tell, given modern, well-made NiCads
Is that saying that NiCads are usually the longer running ones? Or did I read that totally wrong?
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Post by RKG »

Historically, NiCads were subject to a "memory effect" caused by some hard crystallization of the electrolyte paste if recharged before nearly discharged. Modern design and manufacturing techniques have all but eliminated this effect, though I still like to engage in sound battery management and periodic conditioning. Using M batteries, I've found you can get at least 500 cycles before the battery's capacity is reduced to 50% of nominal.
Susan157
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What Battery In Canada

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:wink:

For Cold Weather the Cad Stands up a Bit Better.
Hydrid does not like the Cold.
We had the local groups put pockets inside their
coats to keep the batteries warm.

Works Great.
The hydrids are smaller by 1/3 to get the same
power as the cad.We only use hydrids now
but it is used with a conditioner and the life cycle is much
better.WATCH THE COLD "BAD"
Dave Mac
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How Hot is it?

Post by Dave Mac »

When NiMH's first came out I got one for my radio and it worked great - so I ordered them for everyone else, about 30 radios. A disaster, I never leave my radio in the car -Arizona at 115 degrees today. Those that did leave them in the car (like all weekend) ruined them in less than 60 days. Motorola replaced them with NiCads - I kept mine and never had a problem - usually got about 2 years out of them.
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Nicd VS Nimh

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I have been doing some extensive testing, Not Official though, Some of what I have found.

Using a XTS-3000 and Motorola NiCd NTN8297A We average 25 to 30 Months of service, before the battery will not last an 8 hour shift.
Very few waranty issues.

Using a XTS-3000 and a Battery Zone 4000 Mah MiMh BZ8297XX. We average 14 to 18 Months of service, before the battery gives a low battery alert. Some radios continue to operate 6 - 8 additional hours while in low battery alert condition. We have experienced multiple waranty issues with this battery. Most Common, failing to make good contact with the radio, second most common, a weak cell (low battery alert) I have tried conditioning, even though the conditioner reports 3500 mah or better, I get a low batt indication after 6 or 7 hours.

We are currently switching to the Motorola 3500 nimh RNN 4007AR, I have had no failures, and All good comments from the users so far.

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Post by USPSS »

The Air Force has standardized on the Multiplier M4007 at about 14.00 less, no problems with 8000 batteries.

Also Multiplier makes a 4000 MAH for the XTS also used by US Customs and Boder Security and Fema Excluslivly, NO PROBLEMS either
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Multiplier Batteries

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I also use the Multiplier 4000 MAH Batteries for my XTS3500 and they work great!

I have no problems what so ever. I get about 2 and a half days out of them.

I have 2 batteries with 1 on they way and 3 more for my MT2000!

W+W Batteries are a different story.
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