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Ok, as I understand it, from the previous thread about licensing, there are no specifically allocated repeater pairs in the VHF spectrum? If I am understanding that correctly, then we should be legal to operate simplex on each of the frequencies that we license for the repeater, yes? or no?

Yeah. Dude, you need to tell someone that Bearcom dicked you guys over and get a real pair coordinated.

Bearcom sux azz.

If you were licensed for an FB2 (repeater) AND associated mobiles (you should see two more lines. One MO line will be the input to your repeater and the other MO line will be the output frequency of your repeater (same as the FB2). You can legally operate simplex on these frequencies within your "area of operation" which is also shown on your license.

The person who did your license should be able to explain all this to you especially if you PAID them to do your licensing paperwork. I'm not talking about the FCC fee you paid or the Frequency Coordination Fee you paid, I'm talking about what they charged you to do the paperwork for your license.

BEarcom licensed them on an ITINERATE freq in Northern Alaska fer cryin out loud. BOOOOO.

KH wrote:BEarcom licensed them on an ITINERATE freq in Northern Alaska fer cryin out loud. BOOOOO.

He's showing a Portland Or location.....didn't know about previous thread.....

agree with you about Bear###

another example of why Wal-mart type operations won't work in our industry. Some people just can't get rid of that "lowest price is always
the best way to go" mentality.

He sent me all his stuff on PM and I scoped it out on fcc.gov. Bearscat dorked his company but good.

I've gotten some good deals from bearcom! Great prices! A little absent minded in their tech dept tho.

Can you explain what the problem is, I'm interested in butting in.

KH wrote:BEarcom licensed them on an ITINERATE freq in Northern Alaska fer cryin out loud. BOOOOO.

Utter laziness, or greed, or both.

As an employee of Bearcom, I can say that the greed and ignorance is at the top levels. I also agree that they have some absent minded techs. But not all.

We have some techs that are outstanding in their work and are able to fix alot of problems. We have our techs who work only on the older equipment because they were around when it was all Motorola and then there are some of our techs who fix almost anything. And then we have the "I don't have a clue" techs.

I just work on the installation side and we do charge less than other service shops in our area, for one simple reason. If we charged like the other shops it would be a flat bill for $60-$80 an hour. We charge a flat rate for a service regardless of the time (on the install side only). Because a quality job could take 5-7hrs for something another shop is doing in 3-4hrs.

But while they charge you $240-$320 for the job we may charge $150 flat rate for. It's just not good business to charge people just for the time to do the job right.

I'm not one of the "bleed and die for the company" type of employees, I just jumped in because I don't want people to think all of the Bearcom employees are wal-mart rejects who can't get a job elsewhere.

There are good points and bad points to all companies and when you have a company as big as Bearcom, you are going to get a few bad apples. Please, don't lump us all in the same basket.

fire-medic8104 wrote:I'm not one of the "bleed and die for the company" type of employees, I just jumped in because I don't want people to think all of the Bearcom employees are wal-mart rejects who can't get a job elsewhere.

You shouldn't necessarily be a bleed and die for the company, but rather bleed and die for the customer. This thinking will take you places. It helps if everyone is on the same team though, for sure.

So what's the big deal. Itinerant. Big whoop. Like 151.625 or 464.500?
Why is this so bad in this instance? I take it there are not a lot of other users on that freq up there. Are they not desirous of having the flexibility to move about and use the radios legally? OR... were they charged for frequency coordination and given an itinerant? Still don't get what the big deal is. What kind of business is it?

Hello.

I agree, most of the issues at bearcom are at the top.
Management has need for more profit, remember, someone wants a new boat.
In Houston, I had just a few dealings with several dealers, motorola included.
We found repeaters on rooftop sites, going with the legal route, remove only after constable/JP has finished.
Talk about cheap! pay for 1 box, and put up 4?
In the end, this will cost much more, because once the new contracts are written, a guard will need to be dispatched to let the tech access the property, just like everywhere else in Houston, and who pays for this?
In the end, you get what you pay for.

yes, George.........we were charged for coordination, and then given a channel that we could have just filled out the paperwork for, paid the fee, and gotten. I sent the guy who did the coordination an email, asking him if it was normal, to coordinate someone onto an itinerant frequency. I had some other questions for him, as well. He answered most of the questions, but, when it came to the intinerant question? The only way he addresssed that was to say that yes, indeed, it was an intinerant frequency. I don't think he got the point, that I was trying to find out why he charged us $400 to coordinate us on a frequency that does not need to be coordinated. If this was my biggest worry, during the week, I might have taken the time to beat him up a bit more about it. However, with fire season fast approaching, I am busier'n a one legged man in an a$$ kicking contest. So I just know that this guy will never get any more of our business. I may even persuade the powers that be to start buying radios from Day Wireless, instead of Bearcom. This is the big deal..........if one "part" of the company screws a customer over, then the company risks losing ALL of the business they do with that customer. *shrugs* I gotta go start my four day weekend. Have a good'n, everyone!

George you missed the first post. They're on an itinerant and so is the guy down the street. And they PAID bearscat for coordination, because 'scat was cheapest. Well, dey aint no coordination fees with an itinerant. So I think the bearscat SALESDICK shafted kmoose's co. By omission of facts if nuttin else.

BOOOOOO...