saber model numbers

[drsteagle]

Could anyone please tell me what a SABER III SYSTEMS SECURENET portable radio model
H99QX+080H -
Factory id H44TUN5170CN
would be?

I have figured out it is UHF but what is the frequency range, # of channels, power output etc.?

Some of the info matched up on batlabs, but other didn't.

Thank you
D

[ffemt1764]

The only way to determine the bandsplit is to read the radio with RSS, I believe that the systems sabers were 255 mode radios, but someone please correct me if I am wrong on that. But from what I gather by putting the model number into my systems saber RSS I get a UHF full keypad smartnet radio.

[drsteagle]

Can the split be changed with the rss?

[DJP126]

H44TUN5170CN is a Systems Saber I model number. A model III would be H44TUK5170CN. As stated above, you need to read the radio to get the band split.

[DJP126]

Can the split be changed with the rss?

Yes it can but you will also have to change out the frequency sensitive modules.

[ffemt1764]

Could anyone please tell me what a SABER III SYSTEMS SECURENET portable radio model
H99QX+080H -
Factory id H44TUN5170CN
would be?

Thats the part that has me befuddled as H99QX+080H is a full keypad radio but the H44TUN5170CN is a no display no keypad radio...which translates to H99QX+102H....makes me wonder what this radio looks like...

[Tom in D.C.]

D:

My first post on this must have been written when my mid was on Mars. The correct information is that the "K" indicates a keypad Saber.

SAK = Standard Keypad Saber
QXK = Securenet Keypad Saber
TUK = System Saber with Keypad (such as yours)

Some of us don't bother to learn the "H99" codes for these radios since
the info we care about is in the "H44/H43/H33/H34" codes, again without
the bandsplit which is only found by reading the radio.

[drsteagle]

it must of been a mis type because it is full keypad.

This is the same looking, can you tell anymore info with all these numbers?

fcc id az489ft4767 model no h99qx+080h factory id h44tuk5170cn serial no 500awjo349

Thank you

[DJP126]

That info translates to System Saber III (full keypad & display), UHF, 5 Watts. That is all you can get from the ID label. The serial number tells you that it was manufactured in May of 1996.

[ffemt1764]

ah ha it is a full keypad radio, but as we have already stated, the only way to determine bandsplit is by using the RSS, and while you have the radio on the service software you can always determine the features in the radio then, but should be a 256 mode radio.

[drsteagle]

i just don't have rss<. I am a disabled I have my ametur radio license and I am looking a getting one of these radios to use for ham and gmrs. etc.

Looks like a nice radio.

Thank you all for the info

drsteagle8 at msn.com

[ffemt1764]

well if you get one and want I would be happy to program it if you provide the frequencies, etc. and covre the shipping costs.

[1 Adam 12]

Be very careful..because a majority of the ones on the market today are the government split.. 403-430 and would as mentioned above have to parts swapped out.... A large number of System Sabers and M-RKs are hitting the market from military and some federal groups as they switch to newer systems. You definitely need the mid split 438-470 radio if you want to cover ham and GMRS. If one can be gotten at the right price even if its the wrong bandsplit, it may be worth it to swap the modules out

[drsteagle]

I looked up the fcc id and it states: grant date 12/1/1989, frequency is 403-520mhz.

(or is that what they all say).
I read somewhere they H99QX+080h was a wide band radio.

I like the radio;
I would like 430-470mhz with out having to change any parts.

[ffemt1764]

All sabers are listed that way 403-520, but each radio will only cover a specific portion of the bandwith, ie 403-433, 440-470, 482-520...and the absolute only way to tell without disassembling the radio is to read it with the RSS, otherwise you could open the radio up and list the part numbers off the PA, VCO, and RF boards. As noted before, if you can get a radio for less than $100 then you can always swap the parts out, they all should be direct plug in parts for doing the swap of the modules....another note is that the sabers I have dont like to go too far out of band, my UHF fusses if I go more than 5 MHZ out of the split, the VCO wont lock and I get the DUH beep.

[drsteagle]

I am looking for a saber III 440-470 mhz 255 ch 4-6w. all I find is the 403 split.

[ffemt1764]

you might try posting a wanted to buy ad in the for sale trade forum, thats how I bought my 2 sabers and my last two spectras also.

[motorola_otaku]

Model 1 conventional Sabers in the 440-470 split aren't going for much on the 'bay nowadays. You could easily get one along with a fully-loaded 403-433 System Saber for under $200 and have a very decent radio for substantially less than what you'd pay for a "factory" 440-470 radio.

[Tom in D.C.]

Decent, warranted, Sabers still command a pretty good price on eBay.
These radios are sold by people who are honest about the condition of
the radios, and who know and declare the bandsplits accurately of the
units they're selling. However, compared to three or four years ago the
prices are definitely lower, and where you once had to pay around $400
for a really nice Saber 3 today you can pick them up for $200/$250 if
you're careful. I recently got a nice S3 Securenet 403-433 for $77.00
that I needed so I could convert a 438-470 S1 to an S3, and the whole cost in
total was probably about $150 which ain't too shabby for a minty S3
Securenet plus a pretty useless S1 that's now on 403-433.

If you don't know the seller by reputation, or if he's got a feedback rating of
like 96%, which is pretty bad, or if he won't tell you the bandsplit, or if he
says he can't test the radio (which means it doesn't work) then keep
looking and save yourself a lot of grief. It also helps to read and re-read
the Saber information on Batlabs.

[Grog]

it must of been a mis type because it is full keypad.

This is the same looking, can you tell anymore info with all these numbers?

fcc id az489ft4767 model no h99qx+080h factory id h44tuk5170cn serial no 500awjo349

Thank you

I just recieved two of those today from an e-pray seller, probably the same one you're looking at if his feedback is around 11,000. Mine are in pretty good shape, and they are the 403-433 splits. Except for the light engraving on the back (fits between the ID sticker and the Acc connection), and the sticker on the front, they look sweet The keys look like they are in nice shape as well.

I bought these mainly for parts, but you never know what might happen

[NB2E]

I would suggest starting your own thread regarding this problem, perhaps in the Correct Location. You're polluting other threads that have absolutely no bearing on your problem. Your currently posting in a Saber related thread about a GM300 programming issue.

NB2E

motorola_otaku
Hi, i made the rib that has the link on the button of this page.

I am trying to program the radio with versions R 03.00.08 and R08.01.00, but the software say me " Radio not respond " about 4 times and then " Codeplug version not supported by this RSS "

The radio...

[aer0bahnradio]

I hope this answers all your questions people
ass far as the RSS frequency range
go purchase a frequency counter and transmit, this will give you an idea of the frequency range.

[aer0bahnradio]

The meaning to these H codes indicate the Type of Radio and Power output

1. H44XXXXX = UHF 4 watt
2. H43XXXXX = UHF 5 watt
3. H33XXXXX = VHF 3 watt
4. H34XXXXX = VHF 2 watt

I hope this answers all your questions people
ass far as the RSS frequency range
go purchase a frequency counter and transmit, this will give you an idea of the frequency range.

[aer0bahnradio]

MODEL CONFIGURATION

H34TUN5170CN 1W - 2W UHF
H44TUN5170CN 2W - 5W UHF
H34YUN5170CN 1W - 2W ( all 403 - 512Mhz ) UHF
H44YUN5170CN 2W - 5W UHF
H34TUK5170CN 1W - 2W UHF
H44TUK5170CN 1W - 5W UHF