hello all.
i am sure somebody already asked this question and an answer has been given, how ever i didn't see it yet.
i have a systems saber vhf full key pad model that when i try to read or program it i get a error message stating com failure.
the rib and cable are hooked up properly, a good charged battery and in dos 6.22 on a slow 486 computer.
com port is set to com port 1 in the rss.
it will read in f9 setup com test and shows that it is con6 but thats it.
it have tried 5 different versions of systems saber rss from B to lab and they all show the same problem.
where did i go wrong with this?
any help would be nice.
systems saber programming problem
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Even with all the RSS versions you have and have tried, you may STILL be using the wrong version.
Your setup appears to be the right combination of a 486/RIB and cable, so I suspect you are experiencing what I call 'Wrong RSS Syndrome'.
Another problem that mayhave been missed...Are you running DOS by itself and not in a shell, like Win XX DOS command or command prompt under XP(not with a '486).
That's the one thing I WISH all RSS versions would report: The software version that was used to program the radio, that way you would know right away if you have a proper and current version that will function.
Many troubles start with the use of the parallel port use ffor programming.
If you are using the LPT-1 port, this will more than likely be the main problem as DOS does not have control of that port like it does with the serial (DB-9) port(at least in all cases I have experienced, it has never worked).
Your setup appears to be the right combination of a 486/RIB and cable, so I suspect you are experiencing what I call 'Wrong RSS Syndrome'.
Another problem that mayhave been missed...Are you running DOS by itself and not in a shell, like Win XX DOS command or command prompt under XP(not with a '486).
That's the one thing I WISH all RSS versions would report: The software version that was used to program the radio, that way you would know right away if you have a proper and current version that will function.
Many troubles start with the use of the parallel port use ffor programming.
If you are using the LPT-1 port, this will more than likely be the main problem as DOS does not have control of that port like it does with the serial (DB-9) port(at least in all cases I have experienced, it has never worked).
Come to think of it, even ver 4.02 should work just fine, but you may experience troubles other than COM failure, like failure to acquire busy line Etc...
If you have a 386 machine, and DOS 6.22 and not running dos in a windows shell, you should be able to read/write to the radio, the Syatems models are even finickier than the standard Saber models when it comes to CPU speeds.
IF your machine has a cacheable memory, disable it if possible, I've had to do this in order for the RSS to read the CP of the radio.
There has been some talk of the Sandy Ganz style RIBs are experiencing trouble with reading/writing to certain radios, but I am not aware of anyy problems myself, other factors might be at work here as well, and I have never heard of the Sandy Ganz RIBs being a trouble spot with programming, I assume it to be a very isolated condition at best.
These are the most required steps to remember when dealing with any computer programmed radio:
1. Read the radio's codeplug
2. SAVE the radio's codeplug!!
3. Use DOS ONLY....NO SHELL!
4. Older radios as well as their vintage RSS require SLOW computers due to timing loops built into the older RSS, they rarely run properly on machines faster than 75 Mhz. unless the RSS is of far later vintage and designed to run in a windows environment.
5. Check ALL batteries, and power supplies for PROPER voltage levels!
6. Use proper 50 ohm terminations while 'testing' transmitter levels, or feed the RF into the monitor's internal RF load to measure RF output power. NEVER feed more than the rated power into ANY service monitor, even the RF fuse will cost you $$$ if you blow it.
If you have a 386 machine, and DOS 6.22 and not running dos in a windows shell, you should be able to read/write to the radio, the Syatems models are even finickier than the standard Saber models when it comes to CPU speeds.
IF your machine has a cacheable memory, disable it if possible, I've had to do this in order for the RSS to read the CP of the radio.
There has been some talk of the Sandy Ganz style RIBs are experiencing trouble with reading/writing to certain radios, but I am not aware of anyy problems myself, other factors might be at work here as well, and I have never heard of the Sandy Ganz RIBs being a trouble spot with programming, I assume it to be a very isolated condition at best.
These are the most required steps to remember when dealing with any computer programmed radio:
1. Read the radio's codeplug
2. SAVE the radio's codeplug!!
3. Use DOS ONLY....NO SHELL!
4. Older radios as well as their vintage RSS require SLOW computers due to timing loops built into the older RSS, they rarely run properly on machines faster than 75 Mhz. unless the RSS is of far later vintage and designed to run in a windows environment.
5. Check ALL batteries, and power supplies for PROPER voltage levels!
6. Use proper 50 ohm terminations while 'testing' transmitter levels, or feed the RF into the monitor's internal RF load to measure RF output power. NEVER feed more than the rated power into ANY service monitor, even the RF fuse will cost you $$$ if you blow it.
Laptop
One other thing to check is the bios settings. I have a 486 Dell and it also works with the system sabers, but not until I went in and adjusted a line for boot speed from 75mhz to a lower setting... also some laptops have setting such as Smart CPU , which when enabled alows for clock speeds to try and match program needs.