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Saber Secure-Modules and RSS´ "DVP Version"

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 9:34 am
by Keygun
Hi folks.

I`m just starting to wonder, why some Saber scrambler-modules generating an entry ("3" for example) in the RSS´ Radio Information Screen "DVP Version", while others do nothing. All tested Sabers have real modules installed (no bypass) and are working correctly in secure mode.

Maybe there is any meaning behind this: It seems, with Smartnet DES-modules, like NTN5833, the entry "3" is always present; with Non-Smartnet DES-modules, like NTN4712, the value for "DVP Version" is always "0" (at least on the tested Sabers). Additional the RSS recognises an installed Smartnet-module - it always give the message "Priority Securenet detected". But on Sabers, which are equipped with an NTN4712, nothing happens.

Any idea?

Next question: Does anybody have a list/reference about what module generates what in "DVP Version" ??

Regards

Keygun

Re: Saber Secure-Modules and RSS´ "DVP Version"

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 1:30 pm
by FireCpt809
Secure Modules
NTN4711 Non-Smartnet DVP
NTN4712 Non-Smartnet DES (replaced with NTN1072)
NTN4713 Non-Smartnet DVP-XL (replaced with NTN1074)
NTN4714 Non-Smartnet DES-XL (replaced with NTN1071)
NTN4720 Secure BYPASS module - can be either silver dummy or plastic
NTN5832 Smartnet DVP
NTN5833 Smartnet DES (replaced with NTN1072)
NTN5834 Smartnet DVP-XL (replaced with NTN1073 *cancelled)
NTN5835 Smartnet DES-XL (replaced with NTN1071)
NTN5755 Multikey DVP (DVP = Digital Voice Privacy or Digital Voice Protection)
NTN5756 Multikey DVP-XL
NTN5757 Multikey DES (DES = Data Encryption Standard)
NTN5758 Multikey DES-XL
NTN5759 Multikey DVI-XL (DVI = Digital Voice International)
NTN5760 OTAR DVP (OTAR = Over The Air Rekeying)
NTN5761 OTAR DVP-XL
NTN5762 OTAR DES
NTN5763 OTAR DES-XL
NTN7288 Multikey DVP (replaced with NTN5755)
NTN7289 Multikey DVP-XL (replaced with NTN5756)
NTN7290 Multikey DES (replaced with NTN5757)
NTN7991 Multikey DES-XL (replaced with NTN5758)
NTN7992 Multikey DVP-XL (replaced with NTN5759)
NTN7298 FASCINATOR (Controlled Cryptographic Item - CCI)

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Re: Saber Secure-Modules and RSS´ "DVP Version"

Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 9:07 am
by Keygun
Thanks for the info, but i already have a list of the common
secure-modules. I need informations why some secure-modules will be recognised by the RSS, and why others will not.
I`m also interested to know, which module is making which entry
in the RSS´"DVP-Version" field.

Regards

Keygun

Re: Saber Secure-Modules and RSS´ "DVP Version"

Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 4:40 pm
by Keygun
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Keygun wrote:Hi folks.

I`m just starting to wonder, why some Saber scrambler-modules generating an entry ("3" for example) in the RSS´ Radio Information Screen "DVP Version", while others do nothing. All tested Sabers have real modules installed (no bypass) and are working correctly in secure mode.

Maybe there is any meaning behind this: It seems, with Smartnet DES-modules, like NTN5833, the entry "3" is always present; with Non-Smartnet DES-modules, like NTN4712, the value for "DVP Version" is always "0" (at least on the tested Sabers). Additional the RSS recognises an installed Smartnet-module - it always give the message "Priority Securenet detected". But on Sabers, which are equipped with an NTN4712, nothing happens.

Any idea?

Next question: Does anybody have a list/reference about what module generates what in "DVP Version" ??

Regards

Keygun