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Programming XTL5K with O3 HHCH

Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 6:37 pm
by pluto1914
I have an OEM USB programming cable for the XTL5000 which works great with the O5 control head.

How do I use it with the O3 handheld control head? I cannot plug it into the transceiver CGAI as it says NO USB on the display screen. Do I have to plug it into the extension cable for the HHCH? (Which I would like to add is conviently hidden in a center console :x )

Thanks!!

David

Re: Programming XTL5K with O3 HHCH

Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 8:50 pm
by Code3
You will not be able to use the CGAI USB programming cable with that setup. You will need to switch to Serial CGAI, or utilise the rear accessory connector Serial/USB programming/data cable.

Re: Programming XTL5K with O3 HHCH

Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 5:10 am
by pluto1914
Code3 wrote:You will not be able to use the CGAI USB programming cable with that setup. You will need to switch to Serial CGAI, or utilise the rear accessory connector Serial/USB programming/data cable.
Well isn't that nice...

No way around that? It was nice to just have one programming cable that was convient to use.

David

Re: Programming XTL5K with O3 HHCH

Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 6:59 am
by spectragod
pluto1914 wrote:
Code3 wrote:You will not be able to use the CGAI USB programming cable with that setup. You will need to switch to Serial CGAI, or utilise the rear accessory connector Serial/USB programming/data cable.
Well isn't that nice...

No way around that? It was nice to just have one programming cable that was convient to use.

David
One cable for one style of radio,03 is a different style, i.e.=different cable. Besides, it's not like they are expensive.

Re: Programming XTL5K with O3 HHCH

Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 10:47 am
by The Pager Geek
Have you tried putting power to the back of the radio and using the USB GCAI connector on the front without the O3?

I will suspect that it works...

tpg

Re: Programming XTL5K with O3 HHCH

Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 7:24 pm
by pluto1914
I'll take a stab at it on Monday and let you know! Thanks again!

David

Re: Programming XTL5K with O3 HHCH

Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 11:51 am
by pluto1914
I tried un plugging the O3 control head and I still couldn't read the radio. I tried unplugging the 25 pin accessory cable and I still couldn't read the radio.

Any other thoughts?

Re: Programming XTL5K with O3 HHCH

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 12:39 pm
by escomm
Mid power radio? Sorry, no USB through the TIB for you. USB through the 26 pin on the back or RS232 through the TIB on the front. If you have your heart set on using the USB cable you can get a remote mount O5 head and read it through the mic jack...

Re: Programming XTL5K with O3 HHCH

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 5:18 am
by pluto1914
I wound up pulling the radio out of the trunk and connecting it up in a car that has an O5 control head. Not the preferred method of course, but it worked. In the mean time I will be looking for the correct programming cable.

Thanks.

David

Re: Programming XTL5K with O3 HHCH

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 8:52 pm
by motorola_otaku
There's a check box in CPS that will allow the radio to power on without any head connected - just with 12V applied to ignition sense via the rear connector. Handy to have when you're fiddling around with control heads.

Get a USB-to-rear cable - it works with damn near any configuration except for 110W radios.

Re: Programming XTL5K with O3 HHCH

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 4:27 am
by akardam
motorola_otaku wrote:There's a check box in CPS that will allow the radio to power on without any head connected - just with 12V applied to ignition sense via the rear connector. Handy to have when you're fiddling around with control heads.
I think what you're thinking about is the checkbox that applied only when a radio is configured for more than one control head - at least, that's what the CPS help file says. Either way, at some point in the development of the XTL line, they made it so that the brick will power on when power is applied to the main power connector, even if nothing else is attached to the radio (though I'm not sure if this holds true if ignition sense is required for radio powerup). We've used this several times in the field to deal with radios that had a severe detachment from their control heads that syncing just didn't work on.

Re: Programming XTL5K with O3 HHCH

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 8:37 am
by motorola_otaku
Well, I was fiddling around with a 2005-vintage radio with R04 firmware yesterday trying to get an O5 head to work on it (associated whinge forthcoming) and it powered on with no head attached - BUT only when 12V was applied to ignition sense. And that box was checked. So it's something to look out for in older-firmware radios, at least.